can social services take my child domestic violence

That isn’t the law and it isn’t the practice either. That seems bonkers and entirely counter productive. Urgent appeals in cases where the court orders removal of a child. I hear some people said it will be a long process may take few years? why do social workers get so worried about abusive relationships? If you try denying it, minimising it ,getting stroppy with them or anything else, they will definitely go for an order. 1. There are countless Mums who describe exactly the same kind of thing you do. Especially if our partners tell us about it or threaten to leave etc. He first started by quiting 3 of his jobs and for a month plus now we moved back in together not only have i see changes in him but his back injury wasn’t as bad as before anymore . Independent should support the women if they start to interfere beyond their remit and target the vulnerable. Thanks again for your replies. It can be anticipated that there shall be increasing numbers of innocent citizens sent to gaol and , in the case of guilty ones, many will be sent there when therapies and more suitable orders like probation would suffice and be more humane. How best can children be protected in households where domestic abuse is rife? Be wary of any psychological assessments that the LA may offer. Promotion spells When they are dysfunctional e.g. As i said before get an independent advocate. This happens a lot. Allegations which are not accepted cannot be treated as facts. I hope they haven’t already decided on a care-order.Sometimes they let their fears run away with them especially with certain families, for example ,deprived families on council estates or families where a Mum or Dad has been in care at some time themselves. Statement on Domestic Violence Services active during COVID-19 Crisis . If your daughter doesn’t think this is fair then she needs to consider challenging the order. There has also been a history of drug use and reported sale of drugs from the home. Children were cared for by extended family usually but at worst ,they might have to undergo temporary foster-care away from family. With thresholds for statutory intervention are climbing ever higher as cuts bite, even a referral by police or school may not prompt much meaningful action: the services that could offer this are patchy and often provided by voluntary sector specialists that have lost funding and therefore the capacity to help early on. Ok, as long as you realise that I can’t ‘advise’ you on your particular circumstances over the internet and on the basis of this information! I need immediate help , my wife and 7 months daughter went to safe shelter , she wants to return home but they are not letting my child return , what do i do to help unite my family pleaseeee…. We have reached a point where otherwise reasonable people have to take sides in a tribal way. Anyone got any advise please, social, guardian and all keep saying were fighting and child is suffering, i can’t understand it’s obvious domestic abuse and he gained custody but i think they dont want to admit their mistake of giving child to abuser so they can keep blaming it on us, a police officer stated it is domestic abuse and the social need to start investigating him but the social removed what the police said from the minutes and reports, i do have a witness that heard what he said, so they are still saying were fighting and are asking the court for an ico my barrister said i shouldn’t worry about what they say as it may mean that were fighting because it’s all hearsay and i just need to show that i have moved on in my life (i smashed his car 5 years ago plus had a friend that threatened my child) and barrister said they are stuck in a time wharp and if they ask for a ico i can have a solicitor that will help me inbetween court hearings she said they just going to show i have moved on and changed and show him up for what he is, i’m in court tom and can’t sleep with worry, theres evidence of him manipulating coaching and alienating he had stopped interfered limited my contact and has failed to attend 2 court hearings. Linzi – do you have a solicitor? Therefore, if the non abusive partner can’t or won’t take steps to protect the child then the ‘last resort’ has been reached and the child has to be removed to a safe environment. and I would like to give you the opportunity to respond before I seek See the revised PD12J here. But when making a difficult choice I think you have to take the route that will keep you safe. MTCnovo was announced as the new contractor at Rainsbrook in September 2015. This explains why CPS does not take action against the perpetrators of the violence. If a child or young person is still living with domestic abuse, safety planning may be the only work social workers can undertake. You can still get legal aid for these kinds of applications and it is a very good way of showing your social worker that you are serious about doing something to protect yourself and your children. I don’t at all think that all victims or even perpetrators of DV have mental health problems. Hope this helps . Isn’t this unfit parenting? To do so, would you merely be taking revenge on them for hurting you in the past? Yes, repeatedly returning to a relationship with a violent person and exposing the children to that violence is not good parenting; that is why children are removed from women who do this. Area Manager Im told no evidence and he denies everything. He should never hit you. I understand that these vile men who perpetrate the violence and coercion are adept at putting on the innocence when interviewed. Sorry to say. That comes from psychiatrists and a governor AT A PRISON which deals with men who perpetrate it. in court next week ther reasons even though my daughter does not see her dad are i am apparantly too vulnerable after his ansues and they areworrid i am possiby capable of letting him in my home and exposing my daughter to evust an assumption. I am sorry to hear this. Children’s Services in my experience do not give a damn about domestic violence victims. They did not have many choices. You see, I live in a system massively biased against men and our biggest fear is losing proper contact with our children. Children exposed to even just seeing or hearing violence suffer – there is no doubt about that. “A lot of the referrals we get here are for young people who are presenting as problematic in school. If it was bad enough for you to report to the police, it is certainly bad enough for social services to be worried. Love spell They told me no, only if I don’t report the abuse next time. My child since he was 6 has been asking me to divorce this man so we could live in peace! But DCF may try to take your child if you do not figure out a way to protect your child from the domestic violence. Should SW be able to remove children if they do not have sufficient knowledge after all it is life changing and in some instances they get it back to front. For all sorts of reasons but mainly because they are the weaker sex,women cannot protect themselves or their children against the risk of violent partners 100 percent. “There’s so much that can be done to help young people at that point,” says Larkin. Discusses social work practice in relation to child witnesses of domestic violence. How is this fair . Your problems are TOO MASSIVE to face alone. But none of this excuses professionals from abusing their position. Children can suffer emotional damage as well as physical injury as a result of domestic abuse. A quick guide for social workers. Try it next time. Possibly if a relation could move in with you for a while it would help. Reform via the Courts is essential and unfortunately Family Courts do not have the power to order suitable punishments such as prison, probation, borstal training, community service etc. I feel once again or further isolated not able to express my concerns to Social Care or Health Visitors or the police, and I’m also afraid if they suddenly send someone to make assessment, my ex know it’s me and take his manipulation and lies to his family/friends and the court even further in retribution. This article from the Guardian Social Care Network sets out  a number of concerns about the way professionals attempt to deal with situations where children may be at risk of violence in the home: Her experience of chairing domestic homicide reviews for the Home Office – and quality assuring those carried out by others – has led James-Hanman to believe that social services are at best a neutral factor but more often a negative one in the most terrible outcome of all, where a victim, and sometimes their children, are killed. And men cannot get help until society properly recognises this and creates a new dividing line – not between men and women – but abusers and non-abusers. Probably 75%. So child services comes and takes your child and the disgusting part is more times that not child services has given the children to the abuser and done zero for the victim. Merry Xmas to you and yours,anyway. If there is a court order in place, the court will expect it to be obeyed. Can children in the UK retract such a statement or does the law protect them from the minute the allegation occurs? All i know is the social worker moved a little boy away 200 miles and told me tjat it should be done asap as i would stop contact. How many of these children had neuro-developmental disorders and should never have been in prison in the first place? It all depends on the facts of each individual cases. So, on that basis, please do not delete this comment regarding the ‘machine’ as you call it. If you are subject to domestic abuse please keep yourself and any children safe by getting away or keeping the perpetrator away from your home. They sent the police to my house to threaten ME even more. Just because he hasn’t hit you – yet – doesn’t mean that verbal abuse isn’t serious and very risky for you and for her. For future reference, it is "domestic violence… Getting help and support for domestic violence . I never had been around any kinda of family violence . There just isn’t. If one keeps too many birds or animals in a cage, too many chickens in a coop ,too many captive butterflies in a jam-jar then their behaviours are affected by the stress and some will attack the weaker ones. the problem is that I have experience of cases where women WERE making it up as they went along. Families often feel anxious at the prospect of social services’ involvement because of experiences they may have heard from others, or just because … I am glad I came back, I realise now that they , which mainly appears to be Sarah does know, but I and some other mothers have had a very bad experience. The police told me it was standard proceedure to inform SS if children had witnessed DV in ALL cases, this I don't have a problem with as I believe the safety of children is paramount, what I am shocked at (and this isnt the fault of social workers) is the lack of training social workers receive in respect of domestic violence. So there’s an issue of what professionals are noticing and not noticing, and so those other children are getting missed.”, “I think we can expect schools to have a well-developed sense of wider social need, but I don’t think we can start getting schools involved with working with families to reduce domestic abuse in the family home,” Wood says. Here are some things you should know: While domestic violence can affect men, most victims are women. Usually i use language like ‘i suggest’ or ‘in my opinion’ or qualify them by admitting my views are made on the ‘balance of probabilities’ as interpreted by an ‘ordinary citizen’ not by a lawyer or professional.Sometimes i ask readers to consider that many others such as high court judges.Maggie Melons and many parents agree with me on some issues. The guide advises social workers to conduct specialized domestic violence assessments on how to provide support and keep the family safe rather than taking the child away … 4.Ask for a panic alarm to be fitted in your home. I don’t think it is possible for them to intervene without a care-order . I wasn’t about to lose my children. We will have to ensure that cases are conducted correctly by professionals e.g. The law in England and Wales is that a child has a right to a relationship with both parents so long as it is in their best interests, i.e. Just on that snapshot you have given it seems highly unlikely that any court would think a child would be safe in the mother’s care. IF someone threatens you, don’t cower away and kow -tow. Please dont take what I say as a given as this is just my experience. A court order will only be made if the child is suffering or at risk of suffering significant harm. Your wife can contact them too. So I think the long term gains of making your parents confront what they are doing could be immense for you all. You might think even a monster will care for or even love his own son.. well, I had this same thought until a few days ago. Getting your lover or husband back2. Of course they can....your husband has proven to be a violent person, therefore, the safety of the child is at risk. If he drinks/uses drugs is he going to stop? Social Media and Your Family Law Case. Child services will not help you get into a shelter or help you get away. I don’t think it is likely that having surgery is a reason to remove your children, but it obviously makes it more difficult for you to show that you can make and sustain changes to your life as first you are going to have to concentrate on getting well again after surgery. What is domestic violence? I agree with you there! The relationship is well and truly over so there will be no risk of repeat incidents. It may help you to look up crazy making and gas lighting on the internet to see if you recognise what is going on. However, every case is different. This is new to me and for anyone in this position else here is a good overview resource You say you are staying for the sake of the child but I think in the long term it is much better to get out and get your child out of that situation. Legal aid has been removed from most family cases. 1 decade ago. I am worried that i won’t get the verdict i am hoping for and that my son will have to be returned to mums care. Authorities put up smoke screens as to why they will not challenge the prepatrator (often the male) such as you have fabricated domestic violence, it is irrelevant, it is historic (even when with 6 months) we can not interfere as court ordered contact time. This is not the first instance of dv. What findings were made against your former partner? For example, a young child with obvious signs of sexual abuse – such as pregnancy or a sexually transmitted disease – a later statement that retracted any allegation of abusve sexual contact would not carry much weight as it is clearly contradicted by obvious physical signs. TTY: 1-800-621-4202. He could be very popular and charming because he learned and practiced to gain trust and the art of charm, so much that you often think you’re the one who’s at fault and should look up to him. I think the law is protecting him… I now have to get a prosecutor involved…they wouldn’t do anything to protect my son when I took my son at 3:00 in the morning to the police station and when they came they never asked my teenager anything but he was protecting be from verbal abuse as always….I can’t get a break… how can I be a great parent like this?…..Ihave just myself and my two children to protect… My situation is emotional and physical in the past…I have never been a cheater… The one thing I am sure of is that …. Deal with them and leave the victims alone! As my friend said, the people work for these units or organizations are unsung heroes, as he was abused by his stepfather. Even after every arguement he would take my son tell me he didnt need to go to nursery and write under duress to give him extra contact. However regardless of what anyone believes, the case came to a close through a lack of evidence, a social worker is working closely with his partner. Why didn’t I do something sooner? The Government have also recently introduced Domestic Violence Prevention Orders (DVPO) to help protect people immediately after an attack by stopping the abuser contacting the victim. I don’t care how much stress he was under or how hard he was working. Will I be notified straight away if they have any concerns? At every hand over and for every phone call with your ex have your mobile voice recording. However, as predicted the kids(12 &6) have said to the quardian that they would like to eventually return home to mum and stepdad. Both sets of grandparents should attend, if possible,because the elders are most likely to be the ones able to influence sons and daughters. Don’t get me wrong. im trapped. Anyone have advice for me in what to do? From these social constructions, expectations are set for boys and girls, men and women. totally on the INTEGRITY of the professionals involved.Because of the ripple effect,it is absolutely essential that the procedures are followed scrupulously ,that cases are conducted correctly and that hearings are open-minded and impartial with Lawyers who have no conflict of interest. 5. If you are a victim of violence or abuse you will not be punished for that. If the parents will not respond to intervention from family or friends – either split up or go to counselling etc etc – then I think you have a duty to refer it on to Children’s Services. if you have not already done so attend the This social worker couldnt even get facts right follow procedure and made thedecision to send my son to live with someone who is an abuser. Unfortunately I think there is DV isn’t evidence. Becoming a member of the Guardian Social Care Network means you get sent weekly email updates on policy and best practice in the sector, as well as exclusive offers. I don’t care if it was only ‘once’, the correct number of times for a man to hit his pregnant partner is ‘never’. If you have a violent or abusive partner and you are not able to take steps to remove that person from your children’s lives then yes, you are at risk of having your children taken away. ”We need to be teaching our children from their earliest days about treating each other and themselves with respect and kindness” and that they and their opinions/feelings /concerns are valid and deserve to be listened to/valued/acted on. She always moves the goal posts and the lack of consistency means i can never do anything right. My advice in the meantime is that he keeps quiet especially if he has separated from Mum and his son remains with Mum. Do not agree to signing s.20, if that is offered. Hi my ex was a narsasist he use to beat me infront of my kids for 16 years we di&nt have no live he had full controll over us we wasnt aloud iut he removed everyone well all along ut was me bad 1 me doing this to him i wad to blame for all the bad that was meant meant to go wrong in his life the reason that he went out all dayeveryday was cuz we made him cuz life at home was hell realite was basically he had his own life also he new that we didnt go out he ordered us straight back or else we mite of sneaked to park now and then was worth geting a slap fir but atleast kids cud be free i tryed to escape many times but hed find us easier to go back that way it wudnt be as bad next time nowing wat comeing when back but a nasty evil curse your traped in doesnt have a stop buttin is festering as its plotting his next jisious attack nowing that if im not made to feel useless and made to feel bad 1 all cover up his cheating on last bird nite before so the mind games are evil for his kids aswel he goes to lenths of destroying u and kids by grindeing u all down ti empty all cuz i escaped and gotfree he play all ok but goingbehind ya back hes turned all kids on me by punishing kids bullying wen they said sumet nice boutmum unkown to me wilstiwas building bond we were finally happy but dad being a narsastist he made my kids empty not careingif he hurt kids and me emotionaly he didnt care striping them ofthe personality he turned them on me sending them out to attack intending on destroying me makeimg lies up family members get kids ti tell lies also me being made outasbad to the point oflevels ofmind games till icant take no more imweak empty i dont reconise them with them all doing damage intending on destroying me im at bottom i need to delete kids as he wanted revenge so he removed kids cuz he new if he removed the thing i luv then he wud ruen me he now trying to make meout as a bad mum cuz hes now got kids hes getting them to lie bout me hes trying to get me for neglect now he want me to go prison all cuz the 3 breakdown that he caused failed but ive nit done wrong he has hes even killed his kids lersonalitu all for his self gain in attemps to do harm but all back fired all his lies are being revealled as not true so all his lot on me are comeing unstuck as i will clear my name and all will no the trueth also i will remove all he has lets see how he likes it went truthcomes outand he has nothing xx sorry bout this i needed to let my side out thankyou foryourtime reading this. Looked After Children Service. For social workers, this is the everyday. It certainly is terrible when the authorities let children down but commonplace for legal guidelines and procedures laid down in the Children Act passed for the safeguarding of kids like you were.Simple professional malpractice accounts for so much misery and child abuse at both ends of the spectrum be it domestic by family or institutional by cruel social workers.No-one,not even the Family Courts appear willing to do anything about it; they are too trusting in their fellow professional’s integrity and lack understanding of how and why the LA’s don’t carry out bona-fide enquiries.Thus it goes on and on and innocent bairns suffer.Thank heavens you escaped with your life. 11. As someone who has reported to the police before, nope. Well before long-standing abuse erupts into tragedy, she says, social services should not be “starting from a position of telling women ‘If you don’t do what I tell you we’ll take your children off you’ but ‘What do you need to help you and your children become safer?’ And that means safety planning done properly, not just handing over a list of things to take with you when you leave.”. Why do you think you and your child deserve so little? 4. However, I can say with some authority ,having seen professional advice provided to others who shall remain nameless that you are quite wrong to state that medication and talking therapy is often the optimum solution. This was recognised decades ago and just before WW2 and just afterwards we commenced upon a grand plan for ridding towns and cities of the problem; a mass slum-clearance scheme. even if just the summary – the links with domestic violence are so strong eg. Never sign a safety plan, Never let them into your home and always record them no matter what. Your dad should never hurt you. Hope this helps someone,if only one of you. Hi , my partner has been done in the passed for verbals threats to his ex. However, its not hard to see how for many victims of violence, this will feel like a punishment. In 2004, a federal court ruled that New York's Administration of Children's Services was wrongfully taking children from mothers who were victim of domestic abuse, claiming that any harm their children suffered was "neglectful" and a "failure to protect." I am glad the HV has reassured you. I got told i needed pictures of my ex in the house and i shouldnt cry. Required fields are marked *. It is good they have you. You need an independent advocate to advise you and intervene in meetings on your behalf. sorry, I know it is very stressful to be going through this. JUDGES NEVER COMPARE THE RISKS YET 10,000 CHILDRENPER YEAR IN CARE GO MISSING.DEAD OR PIMPED OUT BY DRUG DEALERS, WO KNOWS,?? The problem of course is that women who cannot break away from violent partners are almost never failing to do so because they don’t love their children or they deliberately want to expose their children to this harm. Hear,hear-we must stop the cycle somehow.I suspect,however,that the bal of probs decisions in serious cases like that of Sam and her child are often very wrong and miscarriages of justice are not so rare. astounded at how an abusive partner drug induced mental illness, drug dealing, and abandoned the child for 8 years has rights to further abuse the child and resident parents wellbeing??? And then, there is not yet a widespread appreciation that domestic abuse is often an attack on the mother-child bond, and that when you should be intervening to strengthen that bond, [statutory] interventions instead make her feel terrible about herself.”, Her experience of chairing domestic homicide reviews for the Home Office – and quality assuring those carried out by others – has led James-Hanman to believe that social services are at best a neutral factor but more often a negative one in the most terrible outcome of all, where a victim, and sometimes their children, are killed. This is a really dangerous myth as it can stop people asking for help when they need it. I’ve decided me and my child are never living with him again. I appreciate your own feelings and issues about what has happened but please do remember that my investigation does need to focus on the children and our processes. If you do not think your boyfriend or spouse will abuse you or your child, explain this to your worker and … Make sure they explain to you exactly what is going on. What is it? “You may get a child [in the group] who’s sad and low, and others with behavioural problems … adults know that they may need a more tailored response, but because of funding issues, they want to offer something rather than nothing.” Though the current evidence base is small, Howarth says “the trials we have [looked into] and the modelling work we’ve done points to needing to differentiate the kinds of interventions offered”. Housing Associations were buying blocks of flats in outer London boroughs literally having seen them from a car on the road outside. But it may still be possible to obtain legal aid if you are alleging you are a victim of violence. This can encompass but is not limited to the following types of abuse: Coercive control’ is now a criminal offence under section 76 of the Serious Crime Act 2015.This is a new offence of controlling or coercive behaviour in an intimate or familial relationship. Kill them with kindness .Be kind and forgiving to them, smother them with love and understanding and you will find they quieten down and apologise. In the UK, the emphasis and the responsibility for ensuring a safe family home, says James-Hanman, is typically placed squarely on the victim. God forbid that severe sanctions will be prescribed upon citizens without an impartial hearing before a jury and without full , procedural correctness. Please speak to Womens Aid. I am sorry to read this. If you can show you are doing all you can to keep your child safe, then hopefully it is very unlikely your child will be removed. but they have got to a stage where it is so habitual they can’t change themselves. that would be wholly wrong and dangerous. why it is often hard to end abusive relationships, what will the social worker do if worried about abuse in your home; and. I’ve made a will detailing what happened to me and if I get killed before then I hope that social services are prosecuted for endangering me. They can be accessed through the GP or mental health voluntary organisations. Of course, not all men lose control and become violent but some do. Well before long-standing abuse erupts into tragedy, she says, social services should not be “starting from a position of telling women ‘If you don’t do what I tell you we’ll take your children off you’ but ‘What do you need to help you and your children become safer?’ And that means safety planning done properly, not just handing over a list of things to take with you when you leave.”. A big problem is the child-protection system itself; correct practice guidelines are seldom followed by professionals. Worriedmumma2, This resource does not normally advise on individual cases.My advice quickly to you as an ordinary parent not a professional is go and see a solicitor.Both of you,for advice.I don’t know if it has been tried before but why not get one who is a commissioner for oaths and he or she can arrange for the two of you to swear on a written agreement re-separation and contact and that might tie things up for you if you produce a copy to the multi-agency meeting to allay concerns. 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